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		<title>Kommentarer om Studio Ett.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Studio Ett på Sveriges Radio ringde på lunchen idag fredag och frågade om jag kunde vara med i en liten debatt om kärnkraftsdebatten, något som vi i NPYP önskat länge (om än inte just där). Eftersom eftermiddagen ändå såg ut att drabbas av akut arbetsbrist fick jag chefens tillåtelse att flexa ut tidigt och pös [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studio Ett på Sveriges Radio ringde på lunchen idag fredag och frågade om jag kunde vara med i en liten debatt om kärnkraftsdebatten, något som vi i NPYP önskat länge (om än inte just där). Eftersom eftermiddagen ändå såg ut att drabbas av akut arbetsbrist fick jag chefens tillåtelse att flexa ut tidigt och pös iväg ned till SR i Malmö för andra gången på kort tid. Lite allmäna kommentarer om inslaget...</p>
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<p>Att tyskarna är på hugget som inslaget nämner är sant, men bilden är långt ifrån så enhetlig som man ger sken av. Sedan Fukushima-krisen kom igång har vi fått ett antal förfrågningar från tyskar - och en ifrån italien - om användning av grafiken med Den Leende Atomen. Jag var också på en affärsresa till Berlin i december, och hade då på mig en knapp med "Nuclear Power Yes Please"... och på bara en dag fick jag två spontana mycket uppskattande kommentarer från tyskar. I Sverige har jag hittils fått <strong>en</strong> sådan kommentar på över ett år.</p>
<p>Sedan noterar jag att tyskarna nu är på väg att göra exakt samma misstag som vi i Sverige gjorde 1980 och framåt: snabba, panikslagna beslut som enbart går på känslor, och inte överväger fakta. Det finns ingen fakta från Fukushima att tillgå än... idag har man exakt samma fakta som man hade för 4 veckor sedan. Beslutet att snabbstoppa 7 reaktorer i Tyskland har redan i ökade stoft- och koldioxidutsläpp gjort mer skada än vad Fukushima gjort i Japan. Minns att ungefär 25 personer per TWh dör en för tidig död på grund av luftföroreningar från kolkraft. De är lite som att försöka stoppa potentiall blödning i handen genom att skilja armen ifrån kroppen.</p>
<p>Göran säger att det var ca 500 personer på deras möte på Sergels Torg. Faktum är att en sympatisör till oss där och kollade runt lite, så vi räknade för skojs skull hur många som syntes på bilderna. Resultatet kan ni kolla på bilden nedan om ni känner för. Vi fick det till ca 220, plus lite som kom och gick. <img src='http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>13m 35s får jag frågan varför debatten är så "lam" i Sverige. Saken är den att politikerna ville aldrig ha debatten, utom möjligen Torbjörn Fälldin, han som vände Centern emot kärnkraft från att ha varit pionjärerna för kraftformen. Alla fyra kärnkraftskommunerna var starka Centerfästen och de <strong>ville</strong> ha kärnkraft hos sig. De kämpade med näbbar och klor för att få den, vilket de också lyckades med. Men sedan kom som sagt Fälldin och började ställa till oreda i frågan, vilket orsakade en het och infekterad debatt. Fälldin krävde en folkomröstning om kärnkraft men detta ville inte moderaterna eller sossarna gå med på, och inte heller fick han stopp på kärnrkaften som han trodde att han skulle få vilket slutade med att <a href="http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeringen_F%C3%A4lldin_I">regeringen Fälldin I</a> tvingades avgå 5 oktober 1978. </p>
<p>Det som är lite skrämmande är att nu uppför sig dagens Centerparti på ungeför samma sätt, det vill säga de går med på en uppgörelse med en förhoppning att den i praktiken ändå inte kommer att betyda något.</p>
<p>Efter regeringen Fälldins avgång övergick makten till Ola Ullstens Folkparti-regering, och tiden knatade på mot valet på hösten 1979. Socialdemokraterna hade redan sedan tidigare gnällt på Centern och anklagade dem för att fördröja kärnkraftsutbyggnaden, och som följande video från 1977 visar ansåg Palme att kärnkraften behövdes.</p>
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<p>Men sedan slog olyckan på Three Mile Island till. Om opinionstrycket mot kärnkraft var starkt tidigare blev det bedövande nu. Problemet för politikerna var dock att vi var beroende av att av energi. Utbyggnaden av älvarna var stoppad och 70-talets oljekris låg färskt i minnet. Dessutom var miljörörelsen under uppseglande och påminde alla om hur miljövidrigt olja var. Ingen av politikerna ville ta vare sig det ena eller andra beslutet. Att ge med sig och tillåta kärnkraft var livsfarligt, vilket regeringen Fälldins avgång bevisade. Och att snabbt stänga kärnkraften skulle innebära att Sverige blev mycket starkt oljeberoende (igen).</p>
<p>Palme satt i en räxsax för att hälften av sossarna ville ha kärnkraft, andra hälften vill ha bort den. SAP var på väg att spricka på mitten. Så för att rädda partiet inför valet 1979 gick han med på en folkomröstning. På det viset undvek han att kärnkraften blev en valfråga 1979.</p>
<p>Så till slut det blev halv-mesyren att man skulle stänga kärnkraften... om 30 år. På det viset slängde man den heta potatisen ifrån sig och kunde andas ut. Nu var kärnkraften någon annans problem...</p>
<p>...<strong>vårt</strong> problem.</p>
<p>Vis 15m 00s får Göran en fråga och svarar att han anser svenskarna vara "godtrogna" och antyder att vi är lättlurade. Inte bra där Göran. Inte förolämpa intelligensen hos de du försöker övertyga. <img src='http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sedan anklagar Göran politikerna för att inte ha följt folkomröstningsresultatet. Faktum är att omröstningsresultatet - om man nu skall bry sig om det - var följande: "<em>Kärnkraften avvecklas i den takt som är möjlig med hänsyn till behovet av elektrisk kraft för upprätthållande av sysselsättning och välfärd. För att bl.a. minska oljeberoendet och i avvaktan på att förnybara energikällor blir tillgängliga används högst de 12 kärnkraftsreaktorer som i dag är i drift, färdiga eller under arbete.</em>". Här står alltså i klartext att kärnkraften skall <strong>inte</strong> stoppas förrän ersättning är på plats! Om då ersättningen vägrade infinna sig, tja, då är det enligt omröstningen rätt att rekatorerna finns kvar, för det var det man röstade på!</p>
<p>Att jag sedan tycker att hela omröstningen är en fars och inget annat än politiskt rävspel gör dock detta ganska irrelevant. <img src='http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Göran gnäller på pressen - speciellt Bonnier-koncernen - och tycker att han får inte föra fram "Sanningen om kärnkraft". Tja Göran... det är kanske för att det är <strong>din</strong> "sanning" du försöker framföra, och att du inte argumenterar den så bra. Vi har på NPYP petat hål på din argumentation tidigare. Särskilt spännande är det när du i samma artikel refererar till tre olika personer där en av dem säger tvärt emot de två andra.</p>
<p>Göran påstår att kärnkraftsindustrin har en väldigt stark lobby som gör mycket väsen av sig och att FmKK och andra anti-kärnkraftere inte kan tävla med detta. Argumentet är "De har helsides-annonser". Det är ingenting i sammanhanget... det är bara helt vanlig reklam och innebär nästan ingen påverkan alls. Jag har under de senaste åren när jag nu varit aktiv i debatten sett betydligt mer av Göran än vad jag har sett av bolagen.</p>
<p>Förr vågade man sticka ut lite... "Fälldin-läge".. sådant ser man inte idag. <img src='http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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<p>Riksdagdebatten kommenterar vi mer när programmet kommer upp på SVT Play.</p>
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		<title>SR: Studio Ett kl. 16.00 idag</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lantzelot</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Idag klockan 16-17 var Michael Karnerfors (NPYP) och Göran Bryntse (f.d. ordförande för Folkkampanjen mot Kärnkraft-Kärnvapen, FmKK) med i Sveriges Radio P1-programmet Studio Ett. Programmet handlade om kärnkraftsdebatten.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idag klockan 16-17 var <strong>Michael Karnerfors</strong> (<a href="http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/">NPYP</a>) och <strong>Göran Bryntse</strong> (f.d. ordförande för Folkkampanjen mot Kärnkraft-Kärnvapen, <a href="http://folkkampanjen.se/">FmKK</a>) med i Sveriges Radio P1-programmet <strong><a href="http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=1637&amp;artikel=4433458">Studio Ett</a></strong>. Programmet handlade om kärnkraftsdebatten.</p>
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		<title>NPYP i SVT Debatt - 2011-03-17</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 03:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jag (Micke) var med i SVT Debatt idag... och det var en minst sagt märklig tillställning. När de två debattörer som syns och hörs mest, en ljuger oss rakt upp i ansiktet och den andra spelar teater och förolämpar debattmotståndare... geez... den massmediala härdsmältan har sannerligen kommit igång och ventilerar radioaktiva nedfallsprodukter. Länk till programmet: http://svtplay.se/t/103450/debatt [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="mceTemp mceIEcenter" style="text-align: left;">Jag (Micke) var med i SVT Debatt idag... och det var en minst sagt märklig tillställning. När de två debattörer som syns och hörs mest, en ljuger oss rakt upp i ansiktet och den andra spelar teater och förolämpar debattmotståndare... geez... den massmediala härdsmältan har sannerligen kommit igång och ventilerar radioaktiva nedfallsprodukter.</div>
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<p>Länk till programmet: <a href="http://svtplay.se/t/103450/debatt">http://svtplay.se/t/103450/debatt</a></p>
<p>Uppdateringar kommer i denna postning senast fredag kväll där vi bemöter mycket av det som jag och Nisse som satt bredvid mig inte fick tillfälle att svara på.</p>
<p>Stay tuned...</p>
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		<title>Off topic: NPYP-replik i GP på Greenpeace</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lantzelot</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[En vanlig vecka hade det här varit något vi skyltat glatt med; att vi får in en replik i debatten om slutförvarsfrågan i GöteborgsPosten. Men denna otroliga vecka känns det inte särskilt viktigt. Om någon har tid att bry sig så finns Grönfreds artikel från 11 mars här, och vår replik från 16 mars här.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>En vanlig vecka hade det här varit något vi skyltat glatt med; att vi får in en replik i debatten om slutförvarsfrågan i GöteborgsPosten. Men denna otroliga vecka känns det inte särskilt viktigt. Om någon har tid att bry sig så finns <a href="http://www.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.568894-lat-sakerheten-ga-fore-egenintresset">Grönfreds artikel från 11 mars<strong> här</strong></a>, och <a href="http://www.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.573243-omoraliskt-av-greenpeace-anvanda-skramseltaktik">vår replik från 16 mars<strong> här</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>NPYP i P1 Morgon 2011-03-16</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<title>Energia nucleare? Si, grazie!</title>
		<link>http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2011/02/21/energia-nucleare-si-grazie/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nuclear Power Yes Please graphic is now available in italian! Grab it at <a href="http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/it/" target="_blank">our download</a> page.</p>
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		<title>Aiming for the climate change conference</title>
		<link>http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2009/12/11/aiming-for-the-climate-change-conference/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: Voting is now closed. Thank you all who did vote for us. We got 49 thumbs up and 10 thumbs down. Not too shabby. Now let's aim for COP16. Vote for us at COP 15. Click here to go to the voting page. At the time of writing, world leaders are gathering in Copenhagen for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>UPDATE: Voting is now closed. Thank you all who did vote for us. We got 49 thumbs up and 10 thumbs down. Not too shabby. Now let's aim for COP16. <img src='http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;font-size: 150%">Vote for us at COP 15.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;font-size: 150%">Click <a href="http://www.google.com/moderator/g/yt/?embed=http://www.youtube.com/cop15#11/e=431&amp;u=CAIQspmhqPz824fLAQ">here</a> to go to the voting page.</p>
<p>At the time of writing, world leaders are gathering in Copenhagen for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference_2009">United Nations Climate Change Conference</a>.</p>
<p>YouTube, their owners Google, and the host of the conference, the Danish foreign ministry <a href="http://youtube.com/cop15">is allowing people to post questions to be voted for</a>. On tuesday the 15'th, the most voted for questions will be asked to the world leaders.</p>
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		<title>Michael, the saboteur?! Part one...</title>
		<link>http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2009/10/25/michael-the-saboteur-part-one/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had some crazy last few days, culminating with a Swedish newspaper calling me and asking me if I am a saboteur trying to wreck a scientist's work on behalf of the nuclear industry! Whatever prompted anyone to ask something that bizarre? Well, the whole thing started over 30 years ago...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h5><em>By Michael Karnerfors, 2009-10-24</em></h5>
<p><strong>I have had some crazy last few days, culminating with a Swedish newspaper calling me and asking me if I am a saboteur trying to wreck a scientist's work on behalf of the nuclear industry! Whatever prompted anyone to ask something that bizarre? Well, t</strong><strong>he whole thing started over 30 years ago...</strong></p>
<p>Anyone using fissionable material in Sweden is by law responsible for the safekeeping and disposal of the end-products. We're not allowing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reprocessing" target="_blank">reprocessing</a>, and we're not allowing the export of highly radioactive waste products, so we have to deposit any such materials.</p>
<p>To that end, the Swedish nuclear power companies formed the <a href="http://skb.se/Templates/Standard____23240.aspx" target="_blank">Swedish Nuclear Fuel And Waste Management Company</a>, SKB for short for the purpose to researching a viable method to deposit spent nuclear fuel that is acceptable for the public as well as politically. Not that we didn't know of viable methods since <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_floor_disposal" target="_blank">such methods were known since the early 70's</a>. But only very few of them were palatable, so we needed a bit of research of our own.  The project "KärnBränsleSäkerhet" (Nuclear fuel safety), or KBS for short, was started in 1976. In 1983 the third report of this project, KBS-3, was put forth and it proposed what is most likely a solution to the nuclear waste problem.<span id="more-861"></span></p>
<div id="attachment_864" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 305px"><a title="KBS-3 Explained" href="http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/DEEP_eng_big.jpg#target=_blank" target="_blank"><img class="size-full wp-image-864  " title="DEEP_eng" src="http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/DEEP_eng.jpg" alt="KBS-3 explained" width="295" height="360" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">KBS-3 explained, click for a bigger image. © SKB</p></div>
<p>To summarize KBS-3, it describes a deep bedrock repository, 500 meters down where the fuel will be contained by <a href="http://skb.se/Templates/Standard____24110.aspx" target="_blank">three independent barriers</a>. Tunnels will be made in the bedrock, and holes will be drilled out from the tunnels. Each hole will be lined with watertight <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentonite" target="_blank">bentonite clay</a>, and in each of these holes a friction-welded canister made from 5 cm thick corrosion-resistant copper, with cast iron insets holding the nuclear fuel, will be placed. Slow moving water in the bedrock will wetten the bentonite  clay, which will swell to a pressure of up to 50 atmospheres, sealing all cracks and fissures, thereby preventing water movement around the canisters. When the repository is full, all tunnels will be filled with bentonite clay and the access tunnel may be filled to the surface with Portland cement. From then on, around the year 2070, it can be left there, maintenance-free for <a href="http://skb.se/Templates/Standard____24058.aspx" target="_blank">100 000 years</a> until the waste has decayed to a level of radioactivity that is the same as uranium ore. </p>
<p>SKB has been performing research up 'til now to verify that KBS-3 holds. Using data from natural analogues such as <a href="http://www.ocrwm.doe.gov/factsheets/doeymp0010.shtml" target="_blank">Oklo, Gabon</a>; <a href="http://www.bgs.ac.uk/downloads/start.cfm?id=421" target="_blank">Littleham Cove, UK</a>; <a href="http://nuclearfaq.ca/cnf_sectionE.htm#v2" target="_blank">Cigar lake, Canada</a>; along with theoretical analysis, experiments and simulations; they have been verifying that the different barriers should hold. And in late 2010/early 2011 SKB will be handing the final proposal, along with all the research, to the authorities for validation and being <a href="http://skb.se/Templates/Standard____23892.aspx" target="_blank">granted a permit</a> to build the Swedish nuclear fuel repository.</p>
<p>However there is a cloud looming on the horizon. Up until now, it has been assumed that in the oxygen-depleted, reducing environment that exists in the Swedish bedrock chosen at Forsmark, copper cannot possibly corrode. But a team of scientists from Uppsala University (UU) and Royal Institute of Technology (KTH)  claim they have performed research where they <strong>have </strong>been able to make copper corrode under anoxic conditions. <a href="http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2009/02/12/comment-regarding-corriosion-in-kbs-3-copper-capsules/" target="_blank">We have written about that before</a>.</p>
<p>This has caused a bit of a stir because this research <a href="http://www.nyteknik.se/multimedia/archive/00053/Internationell_rappo_53328a.pdf" target="_blank">has not been independently verified yet</a>. It has not been published in a peer reviewed manner. And SKB says that despite being given all these claims since years back, they haven't been able to reproduce the results. Putting further spin on this is that <a href="http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2008153478&amp;IA=SE2008050615" target="_blank">the scientists have patented a method of coating the capsules</a>, someting which they claim solves the supposed problem with corroding copper. So we find ourselves in a situation where SKB says "We cannot confirm this is a problem" and the scientists Szakalos and Hultqvist are saying "But it is indeed a problem!". So in mid-November this year, there will be a <a href="http://www.karnavfallsradet.se/Uploads/Files/386.pdf" target="_blank">workshop</a> where Szakalos, representatives from SKB, and other researchers get together to discuss this matter in an effort to try to reach consensus.</p>
<p>And this is where I stepped into the picture and accidentally caused a bloody mess...</p>
<p><em>Continued in <a href="http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2009/10/31/michael-the-saboteur-part-2-asking-for-email/" target="_self">part 2</a>...</em></p>
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		<title>The last(?) letters from the Smiling Sun.</title>
		<link>http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2009/06/30/the-last-letters-from-the-smiling-sun/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually got this a couple of weeks ago but I've been waiting for a answer to a question. I havn't gotten one so I assume that it's been answered by his silence: the OOA foundation will not be going to court over this for the time being. Hello Michael Karnerfors, Thank you very much [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually got this a couple of weeks ago but I've been waiting for a answer to a question. I havn't gotten one so I assume that it's been answered by his silence: the OOA foundation will not be going to court over this for the time being.</p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Hello Michael Karnerfors,</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Thank you very much for you kind and comprehensive mail of 22/05/09 concerning the matter of copyright. To keep it short, I do certainly not agree with your opinion that you are free to infringe on our copyright. According to the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, signed by 164 countries, copyright is automatic and lasts for at least 50 years. By using the specific way af drawing the face, the most vital part of the anti nuclear Smiling Sun Logo, in your pro-nuclear logo you are certainly infringing on our copyright.</div>
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<div style="padding-left: 30px;">I can just recommend once again that you for the purpose of your logo are using a different way of drawing the smiling face and also are using another font. With the talents and creativity you obviously do possess, it would pose a small problem to you to make those changes. Just go ahead.</div>
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<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Due to other commitments I expect to refrain from further communication concerning this matter.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Kind regards</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Siegfried Christiansen</div>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Copyright Consultant</div>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">OOA Fonden</div>
<p>That he dragged the Berne Convention into this I found amusing because even for a non-expert like me it didn't take long to find that it does not bring him any closer to a winning argument, since the Berne Convention clearly allows exemptions from copyright for things like parody.</p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Hello Siegfried, and thank you for this last message.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">While the Berne Convention does force signatory parties to extend an automatic 50 year copyright and does not explicitly provide exemptions for parody, such legislation is allowed by Article 9(2) of the Convention. Article 9(2) states:</div>
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<div style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>It shall be a matter for legislation in the countries of the Union to permit the reproduction of such works in certain special cases, provided that such reproduction does not conflict with a normal exploitation of the work and does not unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the author.</em></div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">This article means that the individual signatory countries may allow legislation that exempts from the Berne Convention, provided that the above three conditions are not violated. The article is known as the "Berne three-step test" and it has been included in for instance:</div>
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<div style="padding-left: 60px;">
<li>The Agreement on Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights, articles 13 and 30</li>
<li>The World Intellectual Property Organization Copyright Treaty, article 10</li>
<li>The European Union Copyright Directive, chapter II, article 5.</li>
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<div style="padding-left: 30px;">...among others. For example the United States of America has such exemptions in the form of their Fair Use doctrine. Sweden, as I have mentioned, also has such exemptions and parody is one of them.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">So unless you can show that the Swedish copyright law fails the Berne three-step test, and succeed in getting the Swedish legislative body to recognize this and change Swedish copyright law to not include exemption from copyright on grounds of parody, I cannot see that the Berne Convention holds enough legal weight to compel me to alter or stop publishing The Smiling Atom artwork.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Having thus concluded that you have not provided me with anything that shows me I am legally compelled to alter or stop publishing The Smiling Atom artwork, we are left with only your kind request for me to do so. I am sorry to have to tell you this, but I do not intend fulfill that request in the foreseeable future.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Please understand that altering the artwork would defeat its purpose of being a counterweight and a critical voice towards the anti-nuclear power establishment, such as the OOA Foundation and everyone else that use The Smiling Sun artwork to express their opinion of opposing nuclear power. I went through an effort (and some expense) in order to get a close likeness to the original, and as such I am not willing to give up on that unless I am legally compelled to do so, or that the same effect is achieved with a substitute. I do not see that I can achieve the intended effect quite as efficiently or even at all by altering the look of The Smiling Atom artwork so much that it does no longer look like The Smiling Sun artwork.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Since you now have stated that you do not intend communicate with me further regarding this particular matter, I will assume that you have let go of your claim and that you will not attempt any legal action towards me for continuing to publish The Smiling Atom artwork in its present form.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">With that Siegfried, I wish you and the OOA Foundation the very best of luck. You are all of course very welcome to our site (<a href="http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/">http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org</a>) for discussions and debate. Please get in touch if you feel that there is anything we can do together regarding ventures that allow us to discuss the important topic of nuclear power, or in any other way bring the topic to our target audiences.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">with the very best of regards</div>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">/Michael Karnerfors</div>
<p>
Siegfried mailed me again shortly thereafter and re-iterated that he does not agree with me. He did not say they'd go to court if I didn't take The Smiling Atom down though.</p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Dear Michael,</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Just to keep the record clear. Your pronuclear logo does, from our point of view, not meet the basic qualifications for beeing a parody of the Smiling Sun logo. You have created a new pronuclear logo, which is a logo in its own right and by organisations in many countries used as such. For the purpose of this logo you have simply copied the specific drawing of a smile form our protected Smiling Sun logo. That is not a parody but, in plain words, simple - and completely unnecessary - theft and infringement on a vital part of our logo. You are strictly requested to change the design of smiling of your logo.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">As mentioned in my previous mail, we have no wish to continue this communication further. We however still reserve the right to take legal action against you and your organisation if and when this may suit appropriate.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Kind regards</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Siegfried Christiansen</div>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Copyright Consultant</div>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">OOA Fonden</div>
<p>I wrote him one last time, asking for clarification...</p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Hello Siegfried</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">I understand that we are clearly at a difference of opinion on the matter of whether The Smiling Atom is a parody or not and that I think is about as far as we'll go in this discussion, at least for now.</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">What I was assuming was that <strong>for the time being</strong>, you are not intending to take legal action even if I do continue to publish The Smiling Atom artwork in its present form. Am I right or wrong in that assumption Siegfried?</div>
<p></p>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">Further more for the record: there is no "organization". Nuclear Power Yes Please is not a legal person. It's an informal network, i.e. a bunch of people communicating with each other and nothing more. There is no structure, no leadership, no economic activity or anything of the kind that would qualify Nuclear Power Yes Please as a legal person. For all intents and purposes in this particular matter, I am solely responsible for the creation and publication of The Smiling Atom artwork.</div>
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<div style="padding-left: 30px;">with best regards and wishes for a splendid midsummer</div>
<div style="padding-left: 30px;">/Michael</div>
<p></p>
<p>...but I never got a reply. So I'm assuming their lack of wanting to talk to us is also a lack of interresting in saying "We're going to court". </p>
<p>So that is the end of that I assume... for now at least.</p>
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		<title>Going rough on spammers. Collateral damage possible.</title>
		<link>http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2009/06/02/going-rough-on-spammers-collateral-damage-possible/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This past weekend I cleaned out over 120 spam bot user accounts from the forums, and deleted a huge amount of never activated accounts... well over 1000 of them. I have started banning both individual IP-numbers, ranges of them, plus certain mail domains. In this process, legitimate users might end up taking collateral damage. If that happens, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past weekend I cleaned out over 120 spam bot user accounts from the forums, and deleted a huge amount of never activated accounts... well over 1000 of them. I have started banning both individual IP-numbers, ranges of them, plus certain mail domains. In this process, legitimate users might end up taking collateral damage. If that happens, get in touch on the blog or through another user and let us know.</p>
<p>No, I will not make public an email address where to get in touch because then that will pretty soon be spammed as well and we'll just have the same problem again. The blog is the best bet to get in touch.</p>
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